What is the Rockefeller family's motivation? Do they think
they're doing good?
You know, to give them the benefit of the doubt, yeah. I
mean, I start the book, Emerging Viruses, AIDS and Ebola,
off with the famous quote by Solzhenitsyn, "To do evil,
a human being must first believe that what they are doing
is good. It is ideology that gives devil-doing its long-sought
justification." And so, to give them the benefit of
the doubt, let's just say they think they're doing good.
They perceive, let's say, even though there's not a great
deal of hard, scientific evidence, there's far more propaganda
than really good analysis of this, that the over-population
issue is largely a myth. And I say largely because there
are certainly urban areas of the world that are quote, over-populated,
unquote. But when one looks at the misuse of resources,
the misuse of the environment, and you realize who is misusing
and abusing that environment look at what the oil
industry has done, just the Rockefeller and royal family
oil industry. Look at who pollutes the atmosphere. Look
at who suppresses the alternative energy resources. So who
is responsible for the degradation of the environment so
that now those over-populated urban areas, they can't even
get good water. They can't get good food. They can't grow
things because the soil's been depleted by the same people
who since the 1930's knew that their misuse of agriculture
methods were going to cause a depletion of the minerals
in the soils. So, all of this literally is mismanaged bio-agenda.
And you could argue that all these people are making vast
fortunes off of humanity's suffering. The Rockefellers monopolized
American medicine in the 1920's. They, along with I.G. Farben,
Germany's leading industrial organization, held the monopoly
on the world's chemical and pharmaceutical industries. The
Rockefellers and I.G. Farben worked together before World
War II and during World War II. For all practical purposes,
the Rockefellers and I.G. Farben were the Third Reich. So
you can say, oh, it's just a figment of my conspiracy theorist's
imagination that says that these people are preparing biologicals
in their labs and transmitting them through their medical
products, and these same people are putting ethylene dibromide
in jet fuel, and everyone is getting upper respiratory infections
from the biologicals and chemicals, and then these same
people are making vast fortunes off all the quote effective
antibiotics unquote that they have against these things.
You can just make that argument. But then, unfortunately,
if you're a true researcher, you don't even stop there.
Suddenly you get laid out all of the other more insidious,
more horrifying documentation, such as who also gave rise
to Hitler's racial hygiene programthey're the same
people. They funded it. It was the Rockefeller family that
built and funded the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Anthropology,
Eugenics and Human Heredity, which was run by Swiss psychiatrist
Ernst Rudin, who was named president of the worldwide Eugenics
Federation in 1932. Now that's real well articulated in
that book published by St. Martin's by Aarons and Loftins
called The Secret War Against the Jews. And also
another very good book by Little Brown called Martin
Boorman: Nazi in Exile. Martin Boorman, like Hitler,
was never found. It's only come out recently on the History
Channel that they admit it's likely that the carcass that
was found in the bunker in Berlin was not Hitler's. I just
saw that the other day on the History Channel. It was either
the History or Discovery Channel, one of the two. Martin
Boorman is clearly known to have skipped town and was never
found. This was Germany's principle money man. He was in
charge of the Nazi war chest. The entire German economy
was under his direction. He was the liaison with the banksters,
the Rockefellers. He laundered half of the remaining Nazi
war chest through the Chase Manhattan Bankthe Paris
branchwhich remained open throughout the German occupation
of France. And of course there was congressional testimony
as to how the Rockefeller family and Standard Oil were operating
and making fortunes off both sides during World War II.
Who else is involved in this conspiracy?
Well, there's the Merck Pharmaceutical Company. Their president,
George W. Merck, was America's biological weapons industry
director during World War II. He was personally appointed
by President Roosevelt and Secretary of War Stimson...
And he had his own private pharmaceutical company?
And had a very well established private company called the
Merck Pharmaceutical Company. And he and his company received
the lion's share of the Nazi war chest. When Hitler and
Martin Boorman knew they were going to lose the war, they
invested their treasury in 750 corporations to produce a
monopoly over the world's pharmaceutical and chemical industries.
Hitler and Boorman invested heavily in Merck and other pharmaceutical
companies. They not only knew that would be a good way to
make money as a future investment, but they also knew that,
given the Holocaust, you can mass exterminate people through
chemicals, gasses and pharmaceuticals. You can take people
out untraceably that way. So that was the target and primary
objective for the rise of the Fourth Reich.
The Fourth Reich?
Exactly. That's what's going on today. The Nazis planned
for it, they even had a term for it"neue Ordnung"which
means New Order, New World Order. This today, this New World
Order, is the rise of the Fourth Reich. This is precisely
what they envisioned and then carried out.
On a global scale?
That's exactly what it is.
And the goal of the Fourth Reich is population control?
That, and genocide.
Who are they targeting for genocide?
The populations that have traditionally been targeted for
genocide. I have a series of slides taken just weeks ago
from the Denver Airport. There's a capstone, a dedication
stone in the main terminal building of the Denver Airport
dedicated to the New World Airport Commission by the Freemasons.
And there's a big murala huge, beautiful, colorful
muralthat is dedicated to the extinct species. And
in the foreground, against the horrific backdrop of flames
and destruction, there are three open coffins.
This is at the Denver Airport?
Yes. In the left hand coffin is a beautiful black woman
dressed in native African attire representing the Black
people of the world. In the center is a beautiful Native
North American woman representing the Indians. And in the
right, there's a beautiful blond-haired, likely blue-eyed
woman, lying on an American quilt, clenching a Star of David
and a Bible with a cross to her chest, representing the
Jews and the Christians. So those are the people that are,
you know, the agenda is to take them out. And, in fact,
the United States quilt is very significant because the
depopulation agenda put forth by the Rockefellers and their
friends is to reduce the United State's population by half,
back to 1940's levels. And in the new book Healing Codes
of the Biblical Apocalypse we reprinted the full page
advertisement to the world's wealthiest military-medical-industrialists
on the Council of Foreign Relations to reduce the U.S. population
which currently stands at 275 million down to 140 million,
or about its size in the 1940's. So that's one out of every
two Americans are targeted to go. And then you're looking
at, why Christians and why Jews? Well again, if absolute
power corrupts absolutely, and now you get into the realm
of Satanism and Satanic and evil, pure evil, of course you
would want to take out the people who hold God very close
to their heart. And that's exactly what this woman is doing.
She's clutching to her heart the Star of David and the cross.
The Godly people. The Jews got God's first covenant with
Abraham, then the Christians got the blood covenant with
Do you see the Masons as part of the conspiracy.
Oh yeah, absolutely.That's well proven in the book Healing
Codes of the Biblical Apocalypse.
I think when people think of Masons they think of some small
fraternal lodge, like the Shriners or something like that.
Right, that's exactly right. And 99.99 percent of Masons
have no clue what they're really up to at the highest levels.
When you get to the highest levels, you see, they give you
knowledge, increased knowledge at every higher degree of
Freemason that you achieve. And it's not until you're beyond
the 33rd degree, where you get the highest indoctrination
into what's called the Ancient Arcana; that's the ancient
sacred knowledge. We lay out much of that in the book Healing
Codes of the Biblical Apocalypse, and then we show you,
these are the devil-doers who are running this planet. They've
been running this planet for centuries.
How does a person become that high in the Masonic organization?
I think bloodlines. You've got to be major royalty, major
royalty, ideally a descendent or you've got to be somebody
who is very close to the royalty, the major bloodlines.
One question. If there's an attempt underway to reduce the
population of the planet, why isn't it going down?
It's more scriptural than anything else. God said you should
populate the whole earth, and people have been doing it
for awhile. But look at countries like those in Africa,
Third World nations that have been heavily targeted with
HIV/AIDS. And consider that 73 percent of HIV/AIDS patients
in America today are Black or Hispanic, after 55 percent
of gay men in America are already dead. Are you seeing depopulation
specifically targeting minority groups now? Of course. It's
happening right now. I think that the answer is, they don't
want to totally eliminate populations completely, just certain
populations. And isn't it, from their perspective, wonderful?
They've got a covert depopulation agenda that nobody's picked
up on yet. It's ideally what they want to produce. I don't
think they're just doing for the money. I think there's
a Satanic or evil ideology, because Nixon himself said,
referring to the Rockefellers, President Nixon said it's
not about money for these people, it's about power. People
who are scripturally-oriented understand that absolute power
corrupts absolutely, so these people get very, very evil
when they get to that highest level. Now, if you're at that
highest level, and now you have control over the population
and you have control over the money and the money flow and
how it works, and you've ultimately created your goal and
you've fulfilled your objective to have a One World Government
and a One World Bank, a One World Peacekeeping Forcethe
U.N.a One World Economy, One World Currency, virtually,
One World Court, and at the end of that sequence, it's kind
of like playing the game Monopoly. At the end of the Monopoly
game, what do you do? One person wins, they own all of the
real estate, they own all of the assets, they've wiped all
the other players out and the game is over. You put away
in your closet. But you don't do that on planet earth. The
person who wins at the end of that Monopoly game, they get
a chance then to rearrange the board. And that's precisely
what you've seen in the last year. You've seen not the biggest
fish eating the biggest fish in international commerce,
you have seen the mega-whales eating the mega-whales in
these mega-mergers. So, ultimately, all these little companies
that you don't recognize are producing your vitamins or
your this or that, and you don't understand they're a subsidiary
of a major conglomerate. Today a Warner Lambert or Glaxo
Wellcom, all of these huge, huge corporations own all the
little fish. They buy them out. So, again, now the game
board gets to be changed if they desire, and apparently
that's what they desire. That's their agenda, you can see
it. And the second thing is, they get a chance to eliminate
the players that they don't want to play with anymore.
I've been following the news stories on the flu for a couple
of months now, the press coverage over the Internetall
the main wire services, AP, Reutersand there was actually
some coverage about crowded hospital rooms, some updating
on the epidemic without ever using the word epidemic. But
then, around the beginning of January, it just stopped.
It was like somebody flipped a switch and the news coverage
stopped. Like the word came down from somebody.
That's exactly what happens. It's Central Intelligence.
It's real well known.
What do they do, make a phone call? Send a fax out?
Yes. Central Intelligence puts out a list of the top newsworthy
items that are to be covered that day by the mainstream
press. I mean, it doesn't take rocket scientist to see it.
The fact of the matter is, if allegedly you have three independent
main news networks plus CNN, how independent are they if
they all repeat virtually the same story using the same
clippings in close to the same order? They modify that a
little bit so that the ignorant masses don't catch on too
much, but basically that alone should tip you off. And of
course when you read who's in charge of these organizations
and how they fit into the Illuminati and the Council on
Foreign Relations, you begin to say, holy smoke, no wonder.
When you look at who controls the mainstream mediawe
list the members of the Council on Foreign Relations in
the new book in the appendix. With a few exceptions, we've
got the whole list. And you see that Time and Newsweek
and the New York Times are totally infiltrated, totally
controlled by its editors, associate editors, managers,
chief commentators and columnists who are part of the power
elite. These people will not do anything to violate their
position because, at minimum, their fame and fortune and
the money that they're bringing home to feed their own families
is more important than turning up a notch their values and
ethics and morals. So they will, even the politicians on
Capitol Hill, the standard practice is Hear No Evil, See
No Evil, Speak No Evil. Don't tell me, I don't want to know.
There's so many important other news stories that never
make it. As somebody who has not only a masters in media
sciences, but on top of that I've been in the real world,
working with the media, working with corporations; I'll
give you an example. PR News wire service is one of the
largest if not the largest fee-for news agencies in America.
That is, if you're a corporation and you want to put out
a news item about your product, that is the company you
go through. Now, I have been a subscriber and on at least
two occasions, probably three or more, I personally have
had my news stories suppressed. I have not been treated
fairly, by even that allegedly independent pay-for subscription
news service. What happens is, I will submit a story, their
assistant or associate editors will take the story, they'll
put it in, then, if they have any questions about whether
it's acceptable to be put on the wire services, they'll
pass it by their editors or their attorneys, and if it says
anything whatsoever that might be construed as slanderous
they won't ask you, what is your documentation to support
this claim? They just simply will not let it run, no matter
how much you pay them, they'll say we're returning your
money. We're not running this story. Now is that the way
a free press should operate? Or would it be better to say,
well, you make a very inflammatory claim here, could I please
see the document upon which this claim is based? That would
be a free press, but it doesn't work that way.
It just amazes me.The other thing that I've seen, the stuff
that's constantly coming across my desk that the mainstream
hasn't caught on, it's actually a great tribute to Joseph
Gobbels and the Nazi psychiatrists who worked to perfect
it, the use of mind control through media. Propaganda. And
that's what's going on today.
What started you down this path? How did you come to pursue
all of the things you've been working on over the years?
Hmmm. Well, gee, that's like asking a chicken where the
first egg came from. How far do you want me to go back?
In terms of, when did I get started in which area?
Well, you were in a prestigious college but you didn't follow
the career path that everyone else did.
I guess I was always a trouble-maker, always questioning
my teachers. I became that way when I was, well, let's see,
I think the first time it was really noticeable to me was
when I was in Tufts Dental School. I had already become
somewhat of a non-conformist. I had been someone who was
always told they would never amount to anything by all of
my authority figures. Not so much my father, because my
father's philosophy was that I could do anything I put my
mind to. Of all the blessings that my father gave me, I
think that was one of the principle ones because I've lived
by that and I believe that for children today, that they
can produce miracles. That they can do anything they put
their minds to. But when I was in high school and I took
my intelligence testsand I did very poorly on those
and I was always a poor testermy counselor told me
that I would never amount to anything, at best I should
be a computer punch card operator. And then, my attitude
was, given what my father taught me, my attitude against
those authorities in academia by the way became, I'll show
you. And then I got to college and I didn't really do that
well first year out. And I was in pre-med and I had my counselor
tell me to drop out because I would never get anywhere.
I would never get to dental school, never get to medical
school. And again I took the attitude, I'll show you. And
then by miracles and tremendous blessingsI always
had to work really hard, though, and I did work hardI
got terrific grades and just turned the whole thing around.
I got into Tufts University School of Dental Medicine; then
I got an invitation to go to Harvard. I turned Harvard down
to go to what is considered today to be the world's top
dental research training program, at the University of Rochester.
It's called the Eastland Dental Center. I spent a year there.
I almost graduated with my masters of science degree, but
I hated Rochester and wanted to back to Boston. I was homesick.
I went back to Boston and joined the faculty at Harvard
in medicine, and then after working on the faculty there
for a year, doing research primarily, then I was told by
my department chairperson that I should go to finish my
masters in public health. I had finished a dental public
health certification program while I was on the faculty,
and then he suggested strongly I go back and focus on behavioral
science and media, for health education and health promotion
and persuasion technologies research at the School of Public
Health. So there I went. I studies with people like Gerald
Lesser, the guy who created the children's television workshop,
Ron Slaby who did the initial research, much of it, in aggression
in childrens' television, Larry Green who was the Surgeon
General of the United States, he was one of my professors.
Terrific, terrific people that I studied under. And again,
at that point, Larry Green, I just called him on some of
his stuff I didn't agree with. Larry Green, you know, he
was Surgeon General of the United States under Carter. He
and I were on a first name basis. And I said, Larry, you
know, and it was always in relation to spirituality. I said,
you can talk about such and such and such and such, but
unless you bring God into the equation, your public health
protocol is far from complete. We had those kinds of discussions.